Christy chats with Stefan and Hugh about her current projects of writing a book on redesigning narrative design away from complicity, an accessible VR project about radical friendship, and a co-operative improv storytelling card game.

Leslie Ehm is a corporate trainer and force of nature. Listen as she talks about training, learning to paint and being in the service of others.

Hank picks his daughter up from Karate class and they chat about his latest job.